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{{Infobox computing device
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  | name = Apple MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023)
| name = Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 16IRX8/16ARX8 (2023)
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  | manufacturer = [[Apple Inc.]]
| manufacturer = [[Lenovo]]
  | family = [[MacBook Pro]]
| family = [[Legion]]
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  | generation =  
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  | release date = {{Start date and age|2023|11|df=yes|br=y}}
| release date = {{Start date and age|2023|01|df=yes|br=y}}
  | lifespan =  
| lifespan =  
  | price = [[United States dollar|USD]] 2499 to 7199
| price = [[United States dollar|USD]] 1139 to 2500
  | discontinued = No
| discontinued = No
  | units sold =  
| units sold =  
  | units shipped =  
| units shipped =  
  | media =  
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  | os = [[macOS Sonoma]]
| os = [[Windows 11 Home]]<br>[[Windows 11 Pro]]<br>[[Windows 11 Home Single Language]]<br>[[No preload operating system]]
  | power =  
| power =  
  | soc =  
| soc =  
  | cpu = [[Apple M3 Pro]]<br>[[Apple M3 Max]]
| cpu = [[AMD Ryzen 5 7645HX]] <br/>[[AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX]]<br/>[[AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX]]<br/>[[Intel Core i5-13500HX]]<br/>[[Intel Core i7-13650HX]]<br/>[[Intel Core i7-13700HX]]<br/>[[Intel Core i9-13900HX]]
  | memory = 18 GB, 36 GB, 48 GB, 64 GB, 96 GB, or 128 GB unified memory
| memory = Up to 32 GB DDR5-5200 (dual-channel)
  | memory slots =  
| memory slots = 2 DDR5 SO-DIMM slots
  | storage = 512 GB, 1 TB, 2 TB, 4 TB, or 8 TB SSD
| storage = Up to 2 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
  | storage slots =  
| storage slots = 2 x M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 slots
  | memory card = SDXC card slot
| memory card =  
  | camera = 1080p FaceTime HD camera
| camera = '''Front:''' 1080p FHD with E-shutter, fixed focus<br>'''Front:''' 720p HD with E-shutter, fixed focus
  | display = '''[[Screen Size|Screen size]]''': 16.2 inch <br/>'''[[Panel Type|Panel type]]''': [[Mini-LED]] <br/>'''[[Coating]]''': Glossy<br>'''[[Resolution]]''': 3456 x 2234 <br/>'''[[Pixel density|PPI]]''': 254 <br/>'''[[Aspect Ratio|Aspect ratio]]''': 16:10 <br/>'''[[Refresh Rate|Refresh rate]]''': Up to 120 Hz <br/>'''[[Brightness|Brightness]]''': 600 Nits (SDR), 1600 Nits (HDR) <br/>'''[[Contrast Ratio|Contrast ratio]]''': 1,000,000:1<br>'''[[Color Gamut|P3]]''': 99.2 %<br>'''Screen-to-body ratio''':  
| display = '''[[Screen Size|Screen size]]''': 16 inch <br/>'''[[Panel Type|Panel type]]''': [[IPS]] <br/>'''[[Coating]]''': Anti-glare<br>'''[[Resolution]]''': 2560 x 1600 <br/>'''[[Aspect Ratio|Aspect ratio]]''': 16:10 <br/>'''[[Refresh Rate|Refresh rate]]''': 165 Hz or 240 Hz <br/>'''[[Brightness|Brightness]]''': 300 nits or 500 nits <br/>'''[[Color Gamut|sRGB]]''': 100 % <br/>'''[[Color Gamut|DCI-P3]]''': 82.4 % <br/>'''[[Variable Refresh Rate|VRR]]''': Yes<br>'''Screen-to-body ratio''': 89 %
  | graphics = [[Apple M3 Pro 18-core GPU]]<br>[[Apple M3 Max 30-core GPU]]<br>[[Apple M3 Max 40-core GPU]]
| graphics = [[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop]] 6 GB [[Video Memory|GDDR6]]<br/>[[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop]] 8 GB GDDR6 [[Total GPU Power|140 W]]<br/>[[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop]] 8 GB GDDR6 140 W
  | sound = High-fidelity six-speaker sound system with force-cancelling woofers<br>Support for Spatial Audio
| sound = Stereo speakers, 2W x2, optimized with Nahimic Audio
  | input =  
| input =  
  | controllers =  
| controllers =  
  | touchpad = Force Touch trackpad
| touchpad = Buttonless Mylar® surface multi-touch touchpad, 75 x 120 mm (2.95 x 4.72 inches)
  | connectivity = Wi-Fi 6E<br>Bluetooth 5.3<br>3 x [[Thunderbolt 4]] (USB-C)<br>1 x HDMI 2.1<br>1 x SDXC card slot<br>1 x 3.5 mm headphone jack<br>1 x MagSafe 3 port
| connectivity = Wi-Fi 6, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2<br>Wi-Fi 6E, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2<br>1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 (Always On)<br>3 x USB 3.2 Gen 1<br>1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.4)<br>1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Lenovo Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort 1.4)<br>1 x HDMI 2.1<br>1 x Ethernet (RJ-45)<br>1 x Headphone / microphone combo jack (3.5mm)
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| platform =  
  | service =  
| service =  
  | dimensions = '''W''': {{convert|14.01|in|cm}} <br/>'''D''': {{convert|9.77|in|cm}} <br/>'''H''': {{convert|0.66|in|cm}}
| dimensions = '''W''': {{convert|36.3|cm|in}} <br/>'''D''': {{convert|26.1|cm|in}} <br/>'''H''': {{convert|2.67|cm|in}}
  | battery = 100 Wh Li-Polymer
| battery = Integrated Li-Polymer 80Wh
  | weight = {{convert|4.7|lbs|kg}} (M3 Pro), {{convert|4.8|lbs|kg}} (M3 Max)
| weight = {{convert|2.5|kg|lbs}}
  | weight of power brick = 140W USB-C Power Adapter
| weight of power brick = 230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter
  | number pad = No
| number pad = Yes
  | chassis = '''Color''': Space Black, Silver<br>'''Materials''': 100% recycled aluminum
| chassis = '''Color''': Onyx grey<br>'''Materials''': Aluminium (top), PC-ABS (bottom)<br>'''Cooling''': Legion Coldfront 5.0 cooling system
  | keyboard lighting color = Backlit Magic Keyboard
| keyboard lighting color = 4-zone RGB backlit, Blue backlit, White backlit
  | fingerprint reader = Touch ID
| fingerprint reader = No
  | facial recognition = No
| facial recognition = No
  | special features =  
| special features = Dolby Vision®, AMD FreeSync™, NVIDIA® G-SYNC®, Advanced Optimus support, TÜV Low Blue Light
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  | compatibility =  
| compatibility =  
  | predecessor = [[Apple MacBook Pro 16 (2021)]]
| predecessor =  
  | successor =  
| successor =  
  | related =  
| related =  
  | website = [https://support.apple.com/en-us/117737 Apple]
| website = [https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Legion_Pro_5_16ARX8/Legion_Pro_5_16ARX8_Spec.pdf Lenovo]
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The '''Apple MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023)''' is a high-performance laptop designed for professional use, featuring Apple's M3 Pro and M3 Max chips. It is available in configurations with up to 128 GB of unified memory and 8 TB of SSD storage. The MacBook Pro 16 is known for its high-quality Mini-LED display, excellent battery life, and robust build quality.<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://support.apple.com/en-us/117737 |title=MacBook Pro (16-inch, Nov 2023) - Technical Specifications |publisher=Apple |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The '''Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 16IRX8/16ARX8 (2023)''' is a mid-range gaming laptop designed to offer strong performance for both gaming and productivity tasks. It features AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors and Intel 13th Generation Core processors, along with Nvidia RTX 40-series GPUs, making it suitable for demanding applications and modern gaming. The laptop is available in Onyx grey and offers a robust build quality with a mix of aluminum and PC-ABS materials.


== Primary Hardware ==
== Primary Hardware ==
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=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023) can be configured with the following processors<ref name="specs" />:
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 can be configured with the following processors<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Legion_Pro_5_16IRX8/Legion_Pro_5_16IRX8_Spec.pdf |title=Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 Specifications |publisher=Lenovo}}</ref>:
*[[Apple M3 Pro]] with a 12-core CPU (6 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores), 18-core GPU, and 16-core Neural Engine.
*[[AMD Ryzen 5 7645HX]] with 6 cores and 12 threads, base frequency of 4.0 GHz, max frequency of 5.0 GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, and 32 MB L3 cache.
*[[Apple M3 Max]] with a 14-core CPU (10 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores) or a 16-core CPU (12 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores), 30-core or 40-core GPU, and 16-core Neural Engine.
*[[AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX]] with 8 cores and 16 threads, base frequency of 3.6 GHz, max frequency of 5.1 GHz, 8 MB L2 cache, and 32 MB L3 cache.
*[[AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX]] with 16 cores and 32 threads, base frequency of 2.5 GHz, max frequency of 5.4 GHz, 16 MB L2 cache, and 64 MB L3 cache.
*[[Intel Core i5-13500HX]] with 14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 20 threads, base frequency of 2.5 GHz, max frequency of 4.7 GHz, 24 MB cache.
*[[Intel Core i7-13650HX]] with 14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 20 threads, base frequency of 2.6 GHz, max frequency of 4.9 GHz, 24 MB cache.
*[[Intel Core i7-13700HX]] with 16 cores (8 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 24 threads, base frequency of 2.1 GHz, max frequency of 5.0 GHz, 30 MB cache.
*[[Intel Core i9-13900HX]] with 24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) and 32 threads, base frequency of 2.2 GHz, max frequency of 5.4 GHz, 36 MB cache.


The M3 Pro and M3 Max chips are built on a 3 nm process, offering significant improvements in power efficiency and performance over previous generations. The M3 Max, in particular, provides a substantial boost in multi-core performance, making it suitable for demanding tasks such as video editing and 3D rendering.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20new%20M3%20Max%20is%20mostly%20about%20the%20CPU%20performance%20and%20the%20results%20are%20really%20good. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX processor is particularly noted for its strong performance in both single-threaded and multi-threaded tasks. It competes closely with Intel's Core i7-13700HX in most benchmarks, making it a reasonable upgrade from previous models.<ref name="notebookcheck">{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-7-7745HX-performance-debut-Lenovo-Legion-Pro-5-16-Gen-8-laptop-review.717942.0.html |title=Ryzen 7 7745HX performance debut: Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16 Gen 8 laptop review |publisher=NotebookCheck}}</ref>


In benchmarks, the M3 Max shows a 63% improvement in multi-core performance over the M2 Max, and a 20% increase in single-core performance.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20multi%2Dcore%20performance%20was%20increased%20by%20more%20than%2060%20%25%20compared%20to%20the%20M2%20Max%2C%20and%20even%20Intel%27s%20H45%20chips%2C%20as%20well%20as%20AMD%27s%20HS%20processors%20%28Zen4%29%2C%20are%20clearly%20beaten. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
Reviewers have praised the processors for their performance in productivity and gaming tasks. The Ryzen 7 7745HX, for example, scored 13,063 points in Geekbench 6 multi-core tests, outperforming many competitors in its class.<ref name="laptopmag">{{cite web |url=https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-5-pro |title=Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Review |publisher=LaptopMag}}</ref> The Ryzen 5 7645HX also performs well, handling general productivity tasks and demanding multi-threaded workloads efficiently.<ref name="rtings">{{cite web |url=https://www.rtings.com/laptop/reviews/lenovo/legion-pro-5-gen-8-16-2023 |title=Lenovo Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 16 (2023) Review |publisher=RTINGS}}</ref>


'''Benchmarks''':
'''Benchmarks''':
*Cinebench R23:
*Cinebench R23:
** M3 Max: ~24024 pts (multi-core), ~1968 pts (single-core)<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20is%20significantly%20better%20compared%20to%20the%20old%20M2%20Max%2C%20and%20we%20see%20an%20advantage%20of%2063%20%25%20in%20the%20Cinebench%20R23%20Multi%20test. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
** Ryzen 7 7745HX: ~18,453 points (multi-core), ~1,846 points (single-core)<ref name="notebookcheck" />
*Geekbench 6:
** Ryzen 7 7745HX: ~13,063 points (multi-core)<ref name="laptopmag" />
** Ryzen 5 7645HX: ~10,156 points (multi-core)<ref name="rtings" />


=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023) is equipped with the following GPU options<ref name="specs" />:
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers the following GPU configurations<ref name="specs" />:
*[[Apple M3 Pro 18-core GPU]]
*[[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop]] GPU with 6 GB GDDR6 memory, 140 W TGP.
*[[Apple M3 Max 30-core GPU]]
*[[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop]] GPU with 8 GB GDDR6 memory, 140 W TGP.
*[[Apple M3 Max 40-core GPU]]
*[[Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop]] GPU with 8 GB GDDR6 memory, 140 W TGP.


The M3 Max GPUs offer significant improvements in graphics performance, particularly in tasks that utilize ray tracing. The 40-core GPU variant provides up to 25% better performance compared to the previous generation.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20is%20between%2013%2D25%20%25%20higher%20depending%20on%20the%20test%2C%20but%20the%20maximum%20power%20consumption%20dropped%20from%2064%20to%2060%20Watts. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 GPU is designed for high-performance gaming and content creation, capable of running modern titles smoothly at high settings. The RTX 4060 and RTX 4050 also provide good performance for 1080p and 1440p gaming.<ref name="pcmag">{{cite web |url=https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-pro-5-gen-8 |title=Lenovo Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 Review |publisher=PCMag}}</ref>


In gaming and 3D rendering, the M3 Max GPU outperforms many dedicated GPUs, making it a strong choice for creative professionals.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20of%20the%20new%20Apple%20M3%20Max%20is%20really%20impressive%20and%20both%20titles%20run%20completely%20smoothly%20%28%2B100%20fps%29%20in%20QHD%20and%20maximum%20settings. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
Reviewers have noted that the GPU performance is strong, with the RTX 4070 achieving playable frame rates in demanding games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Assassin’s Creed Valhalla.<ref name="tomsguide">{{cite web |url=https://www.tomsguide.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-pro-5-gen-8 |title=Lenovo Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 Review |publisher=TomsGuide}}</ref> The RTX 4070 also performed well in synthetic benchmarks, scoring 12,431 points in 3DMark Time Spy.<ref name="notebookcheck" />


'''Benchmarks''':
'''Benchmarks''':
*3DMark Wild Life Extreme Unlimited:
*3DMark Time Spy:
** M3 Max 40-core GPU: ~31268 pts<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20is%20between%2013%2D25%20%25%20higher%20depending%20on%20the%20test%2C%20but%20the%20maximum%20power%20consumption%20dropped%20from%2064%20to%2060%20Watts. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
** RTX 4070: ~12,431 points<ref name="notebookcheck" />
*Cyberpunk 2077:
** RTX 4070: ~69.2 FPS (Ray Tracing: Ultra, DLSS enabled)<ref name="tomsguide" />
*Assassin’s Creed Valhalla:
** RTX 4070: ~113 FPS<ref name="tomsguide" />
*Borderlands 3:
** RTX 4070: ~110 FPS (1080p, max settings)<ref name="laptopmag">{{cite web |url=https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-5-pro |title=Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Review |publisher=LaptopMag}}</ref>


=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023) offers unified memory configurations ranging from 18 GB to 128 GB, depending on the chosen SoC. The M3 Pro supports up to 36 GB, while the M3 Max can be configured with up to 128 GB.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 supports dual-channel memory and comes with the following configurations<ref name="specs" />:
*16 GB DDR5-5200 RAM (2x 8 GB)
*32 GB DDR5-5200 RAM (2x 16 GB)
 
The memory is user-replaceable, allowing for future upgrades. The RAM provides good performance for multitasking and demanding applications.<ref name="rtings" /><ref name="pcmag" />


The unified memory architecture allows for efficient data sharing between the CPU and GPU, enhancing performance in memory-intensive tasks.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20MacBook%20Pro%2016%20is%20once%20again%20an%20excellent%20multimedia%20laptop%20even%20with%20the%20M3%20Max%2C%20and%20is%20pretty%20much%20the%20perfect%20machine%20for%20video%20editing%20thanks%20to%20the%20unified%20memory%20%28which%20is%20also%20used%20by%20the%20GPU%29. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
'''Benchmarks''':
*AIDA64 Memory Copy: ~51,937 MB/s<ref name="notebookcheck" />
*AIDA64 Memory Read: ~52,491 MB/s<ref name="notebookcheck" />


=== [[Storage]] ===
=== [[Storage]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023) can be configured with SSD storage options ranging from 512 GB to 8 TB. The SSDs offer high read and write speeds, with the 8 TB variant achieving up to 8 GB/s in transfer rates.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20of%20the%20Apple%20SSD%20%28AP8192Z%29%2C%20however%2C%20is%20excellent%20with%20transfer%20rates%20of%20up%20to%208%20GB/s. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers the following storage options<ref name="specs" />:
*512 GB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
*1 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
*2 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
 
The storage is user-replaceable, and the SSD offers fast read and write speeds. Reviewers have noted that the SSD provides excellent performance, with quick load times and ample space for games and applications.<ref name="laptopmag" /><ref name="rtings" />


'''Benchmarks''':
'''Benchmarks''':
* Blackmagic Disk Speed Test:
*CrystalDiskMark:
** 5GB Read: ~5665.9 MB/s
** Read Seq Q32T1: ~7,110 MB/s<ref name="notebookcheck" />
** 5GB Write: ~8271 MB/s<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20performance%20of%20the%20Apple%20SSD%20%28AP8192Z%29%2C%20however%2C%20is%20excellent%20with%20transfer%20rates%20of%20up%20to%208%20GB/s. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
** Write Seq Q32T1: ~5,259 MB/s<ref name="notebookcheck" />
 
=== Co-processors ===
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not include any additional co-processors.<ref name="specs" />


== Input Devices ==
== Input Devices ==
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=== [[Keyboard]] ===
=== [[Keyboard]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 features a backlit Magic Keyboard with 78 (U.S.) or 79 (ISO) keys, including 12 full-height function keys and 4 arrow keys in an inverted-T arrangement. The keyboard is praised for its comfortable typing experience, although the keystrokes could be quieter.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20input%20devices%20are%20unchanged%20and%20the%20black%20keyboard%20still%20offers%20a%20comfortable%20and%20precise%20typing%20experience%20despite%20the%20comparatively%20shallow%20travel. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers a full-sized keyboard with the following options<ref name="specs" />:
*4-zone RGB backlit keyboard
*Blue backlit keyboard
*White backlit keyboard
 
Reviewers have noted that the keyboard is comfortable for typing and gaming, with good feedback and key travel. The keycaps are steady, with a nice bit of resistance and pop for an enjoyable typing experience.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="laptopmag" />


=== [[Touchpad]] ===
=== [[Touchpad]] ===
The Force Touch trackpad is large and offers precise cursor control and pressure-sensing capabilities. It supports Force clicks, accelerators, pressure-sensitive drawing, and Multi-Touch gestures.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a buttonless Mylar® surface multi-touch touchpad measuring 75 x 120 mm (2.95 x 4.72 inches). The touchpad is responsive and supports gestures and two-finger scrolling effectively.<ref name="specs" /><ref name="pcmag" />


=== [[Webcam]] ===
=== [[Webcam]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is equipped with a 1080p FaceTime HD camera. While the image quality is good, it lacks features like Face ID or Center Stage.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20image%20quality%20of%20the%201080p%20webcam%20is%20still%20good%20but%20not%20comparable%20to%20front%20cameras%20on%20iPads. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with a 1080p FHD webcam with E-shutter and fixed focus. The webcam supports decent video quality, though some details may appear grainy in low-light conditions.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" />
 
=== [[Microphone]] ===
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes an integrated dual-microphone array. Reviewers have noted that the microphone quality is standard for a laptop, suitable for casual use but not exceptional.<ref name="pcmag" />


== Output Devices ==
== Output Devices ==
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=== [[Display]] ===
=== [[Display]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 features a 16.2-inch Liquid Retina XDR display with a resolution of 3456 x 2234 pixels. It supports ProMotion technology for adaptive refresh rates up to 120Hz and offers a peak brightness of 1600 nits for HDR content. The display is known for its excellent color accuracy and high contrast ratio.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a 16-inch IPS display with the following configurations<ref name="specs" />:
*2560 x 1600 resolution, 165 Hz refresh rate, 300 nits brightness, 100% sRGB color gamut
*2560 x 1600 resolution, 240 Hz refresh rate, 500 nits brightness, DCI-P3 color gamut
 
The display offers good speed and sharpness, with reviewers noting that it is suitable for gaming and productivity. However, the brightness levels are considered average, making it less ideal for use in direct sunlight.<ref name="tomsguide" /><ref name="pcmag" />


The display covers 99.2% of the P3 color gamut, providing vibrant and accurate colors for professional work.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20panel%20covers%2099.2%20percent%20of%20the%20P3%20reference. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
'''Benchmarks''':
*Maximum Brightness: ~318.6 nits<ref name="tomsguide" />
*ΔE Color: ~0.17<ref name="tomsguide" />
*sRGB Coverage: ~99.99%<ref name="rtings" />


=== [[Audio]] ===
=== [[Audio]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is equipped with a high-fidelity six-speaker sound system with force-cancelling woofers. It supports Spatial Audio when playing music or video with Dolby Atmos on built-in speakers.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with stereo speakers, 2W x2, optimized with Nahimic Audio. The speakers provide sufficient volume for casual listening but lack bass and impact. They are positioned on the bottom of the laptop, which diminishes sound quality compared to speakers mounted atop the keyboard deck.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" />
 
The speakers are considered among the best in laptops, providing clear and balanced sound across a wide range of frequencies.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%206%2Dspeaker%20system%20is%20basically%20identical%20to%20the%20previous%20model%2C%20and%20it%20is%20still%20one%20of%20the%20best%20audio%20systems%20you%20can%20get%20in%20a%20laptop. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>


== Connectivity ==
== Connectivity ==
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=== [[WiFi]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is equipped with Wi-Fi 6E, providing fast and stable wireless connectivity. It also supports Bluetooth 5.3 for connecting peripherals.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers two Wi-Fi options<ref name="specs" />:
*Wi-Fi 6, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2
*Wi-Fi 6E, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2
 
Reviewers have noted that the Wi-Fi performance is reliable, supporting high-speed connections with good range.<ref name="rtings" />
 
'''Benchmarks''':
*iperf3 transmit AXE11000: ~1347 MBit/s<ref name="notebookcheck">{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Pro-5-16IRX8-laptop-review-A-hefty-US-1600-for-the-GeForce-RTX-4060.712713.0.html |title=Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 laptop review: A hefty US$1600 for the GeForce RTX 4060 |publisher=NotebookCheck}}</ref>
*iperf3 receive AXE11000: ~1619 MBit/s<ref name="notebookcheck" />
 
=== [[Bluetooth]] ===
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes Bluetooth 5.2, depending on the Wi-Fi module selected.<ref name="specs" />
 
=== [[SD Card Reader]] ===
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not include an SD card reader.<ref name="specs" />


=== [[USB]] ===
=== [[USB]] ===
The MacBook Pro 16 features three Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports, which support charging, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt 4 (up to 40Gb/s), and USB 4 (up to 40Gb/s).<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is equipped with the following USB ports<ref name="specs" />:
*1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 (Always On)
*3 x USB 3.2 Gen 1
*1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.4)
*1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Lenovo Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort 1.4)
 
Reviewers have noted that the port selection is robust, allowing for various connectivity options, including a USB-C port that supports up to 140 watts of power delivery.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" />


=== [[HDMI]] ===
=== Display Outputs ===
The laptop includes an HDMI 2.1 port, supporting one display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes the following display outputs<ref name="specs" />:
*1 x HDMI 2.1


=== [[SD Card Reader]] ===
The HDMI port connects directly to the dedicated GPU, supporting 4K 120Hz output with G-Sync.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" />
The MacBook Pro 16 includes an SDXC card slot, providing fast data transfer speeds for photographers and videographers.<ref name="specs" />


== Case ==
== Case ==
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The MacBook Pro 16 is available in Space Black and Silver, featuring a chassis made from 100% recycled aluminum. The build quality is excellent, with a premium and stable feel.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a full-aluminum chassis available in Onyx grey. The laptop is somewhat bulky but manageable for a gaming laptop, with dimensions of {{convert|36.3|cm|in}} x {{convert|26.1|cm|in}} x {{convert|2.67|cm|in}} and a weight starting at {{convert|2.5|kg|lbs}}.<ref name="specs" />


The laptop's design is sleek and professional, with a maximum opening angle of 135 degrees. The Space Black color is less prone to fingerprints compared to previous models.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20laptop%20looks%20very%20good%20in%20black%2C%20and%20the%20color%20appears%20brighter%20or%20darker%20depending%20on%20the%20ambient%20lighting%2C%20but%20there%20is%20always%20a%20visible%20difference%20to%20the%20black%20keyboard%2C%20which%20is%20noticeably%20darker. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The design is robust and tanky, with ample cooling vents and a solid build quality. However, reviewers have noted that the laptop is heavy, making it less portable.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" />


== Maintenance ==
== Maintenance ==
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The MacBook Pro 16's bottom panel is secured by Pentalobe screws, allowing access to the internal components. However, most components, including the RAM and SSD, are soldered and not user-upgradable.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=There%20is%20not%20much%20to%20do%20once%20you%20are%20inside%2C%20only%20the%20fan%20can%20be%20cleaned%20by%20the%20user. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is designed to be user-serviceable to some extent. The bottom panel is secured by ten screws, making it relatively easy to open. The RAM and storage are user-replaceable, allowing for future upgrades.<ref name="rtings" />
 
'''Upgradeable components:'''<ref name="rtings" />
* M.2 2280 PCIe4 x4 SSD (user-replaceable)
* RAM (user-replaceable)


== Cooling System ==
== Cooling System ==
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The MacBook Pro 16 uses a dual-fan cooling system, which remains quiet during most tasks. The fans only become audible under heavy load, such as gaming or stress tests.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20MacBook%20Pro%20is%20usually%20completely%20silent%20in%20everyday%20situations%20and%20it%20is%20not%20audible%20even%20when%20you%20edit/export%20small%20video%20projects. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features the Legion Coldfront 5.0 cooling system with multiple exhaust vents. The cooling system is effective, keeping surface temperatures manageable even under heavy load.<ref name="specs" /><ref name="notebookcheck" />


=== Heat ===
=== Heat ===
The MacBook Pro 16 maintains low surface temperatures during light tasks, with the chassis reaching up to 42 °C under heavy load. The cooling system effectively manages heat, ensuring comfortable use even during demanding tasks.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20surface%20temperatures%20of%20the%20MacBook%20Pro%2016%20are%20completely%20uncritical. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The cooling system is effective, keeping surface temperatures manageable even under heavy load. The warmest area is the keyboard center, but it remains cooler than expected for a gaming laptop. Reviewers have noted that the laptop manages heat well, with effective cooling solutions in place to prevent overheating during extended gaming sessions.<ref name="notebookcheck" /><ref name="tomsguide" />
 
'''Benchmarks:'''
* Maximum upper side: ~42.8 °C<ref name="notebookcheck" />
* Maximum bottom: ~50 °C<ref name="notebookcheck" />


=== Noise ===
=== Noise ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is generally quiet, with fan noise becoming noticeable only during intensive tasks. The fans operate smoothly, and the noise is not considered disturbing.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20fan%20noise%20is%20very%20steady%20and%20obviously%20audible%2C%20but%20not%20really%20disturbing. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is noted for its fan noise, which can become noticeable under heavy loads. The fans are generally acceptable during gaming sessions, though they can get loud, making it necessary to use headphones for an optimal experience.<ref name="tomsguide" /><ref name="notebookcheck" />
 
'''Benchmarks:'''
* Idle: ~23.1 dB(A)<ref name="notebookcheck" />
* Load: ~54.8 dB(A)<ref name="notebookcheck" />


== Energy Management ==
== Energy Management ==
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=== Power Consumption ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is energy-efficient, with a maximum power consumption of 145 W under load. The included 140 W power adapter is sufficient for charging the device even during intensive tasks.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20maximum%20idle%20consumption%20of%20the%20new%20MacBook%20Pro%2016%20M3%20Max%20is%20slightly%20higher%20compared%20to%20the%20old%20MBP%2016%2C%20but%20the%20differences%20are%20small%20considering%20the%20increased%20SDR%20brightness. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 ships with either a 230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter. The laptop is efficient in its power usage, balancing performance and efficiency. However, it has specific charging requirements, making it picky about chargers.<ref name="specs" /><ref name="notebookcheck" />
 
'''Benchmarks:'''
* Idle: ~24.5 / 29.2 / 34.3 W<ref name="notebookcheck" />
* Load: ~98.7 / 249.6 W<ref name="notebookcheck" />


=== Battery Life ===
=== Battery Life ===
The MacBook Pro 16 is equipped with a 100 Wh battery, offering up to 22 hours of video playback and 15 hours of wireless web browsing. The battery life is considered excellent, especially for a high-performance laptop.<ref name="specs" />
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with an 80Wh Li-Polymer battery. The battery supports Super Rapid Charge Pro, with Lenovo claiming it can charge up to 40% in 10 minutes, 80% in 30 minutes, and 100% in 60 minutes. Reviewers have noted that the battery life is decent for a gaming laptop, with around four to five hours of light use.<ref name="specs" /><ref name="rtings" />


'''Benchmarks''':
'''Benchmarks:'''
* WiFi Browsing (150 nits): ~999 minutes
* WiFi Websurfing: ~3h 25min<ref name="notebookcheck" />
* Load (max brightness): ~71 minutes<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20size%20of%20the%2099.6%20Wh%20battery%20did%20not%20change%2C%20but%20Apple%20managed%20to%20improve%20the%20battery%20runtime%20in%20most%20scenarios. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
* Video Playback: ~3h 42min<ref name="rtings" />
* Gaming: ~1h 01min<ref name="notebookcheck" />
* Laptop Mag Battery Test: ~4h 38min<ref name="laptopmag" />


== Biometrics ==
== Biometrics ==
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The MacBook Pro 16 features Touch ID for secure authentication but does not support Windows Hello face recognition.
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not support Windows Hello face recognition or include a fingerprint reader.<ref name="specs" />


== [[Software]] ==
== [[Software]] ==
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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 ships with Windows 11 Home, Windows 11 Pro, Windows 11 Home Single Language, or no preload operating system, depending on the configuration. The laptop comes with several preinstalled Lenovo apps and software.


=== Preinstalled Software ===
=== Preinstalled Software ===
The MacBook Pro 16 includes a suite of Apple apps such as Safari, Mail, Messages, and more, providing a seamless user experience out of the box.<ref name="specs" />
*Lenovo Vantage: Acts as the primary control center for system vitals, lighting, power, and fan profiles.
*McAfee LiveSafe™ (bloatware)
*Legion Arena: A game launcher for managing and launching games.
*Dolby Vision
*Lenovo Hotkey
*Lenovo Vantage
*McAfee antivirus


=== [[Linux|Linux Support]] ===
=== [[Linux|Linux Support]] ===
Linux is not officially supported by the manufacturer.
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 has limited Linux support. Some distributions may face compatibility issues, particularly with Wi-Fi and brightness controls.<ref name="rtings" />


== Accessories & Warranty ==
== Accessories & Warranty ==
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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with a 230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter and paperwork. The laptop includes a one-year limited manufacturer warranty if purchased in the US.<ref name="specs" />


== Reviews Summary ==
== Reviews Summary ==
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=== Overall Sentiment ===
=== Overall Sentiment ===
The MacBook Pro 16 (Late 2023) is highly regarded for its performance, build quality, and display. It is considered an excellent choice for professionals in creative fields, offering a balance of power and efficiency. The primary drawbacks include the high cost of RAM and SSD upgrades and the lack of user-upgradable components.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20MacBook%20Pro%2016%20is%20once%20again%20an%20excellent%20multimedia%20laptop%20even%20with%20the%20M3%20Max%2C%20and%20is%20pretty%20much%20the%20perfect%20machine%20for%20video%20editing%20thanks%20to%20the%20unified%20memory%20%28which%20is%20also%20used%20by%20the%20GPU%29. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is considered a strong contender in the mid-range gaming laptop market. It is praised for its performance, build quality, and overall value. The laptop is suitable for both gaming and productivity tasks, offering a balance between performance and price. However, it has some drawbacks, such as fan noise, weight, and limited battery life.<ref name="pcmag" /><ref name="tomsguide" /><ref name="rtings" /><ref name="laptopmag" /><ref name="notebookcheck" />


=== Problems Summary ===
=== Problems Summary ===
* High cost of RAM and SSD upgrades.
* Fan noise can be loud under heavy loads.
* Lack of user-upgradable components.
* Heavy and bulky, making it less portable.
* Webcam lacks Face ID and Center Stage.
* Limited battery life, especially during gaming sessions.
* Limited performance in combined CPU/GPU workloads.
* No biometrics (fingerprint reader or face recognition).
* Constant PWM flickering and slow response times.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html#:~:text=The%20new%20M3%20Max%20is%20mostly%20about%20the%20CPU%20performance%20and%20the%20results%20are%20really%20good. |title=Apple MacBook Pro 16 2023 M3 Max Review - M3 Max challenges HX-CPUs from AMD & Intel |publisher=Notebookcheck |accessdate=2024-07-19}}</ref>
* Average brightness levels, making it less ideal for use in direct sunlight.


=== Links ===
=== Links ===
M3 Pro, 18 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD: [https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Pro-review-Efficiency-before-performance.772025.0.html NoteBookCheck]
* [https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-pro-5-gen-8 PCMag Review]
* [https://www.tomsguide.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-pro-5-gen-8 TomsGuide Review]
* [https://www.rtings.com/laptop/reviews/lenovo/legion-pro-5-gen-8-16-2023 RTINGS Review]
* [https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-5-pro LaptopMag Review]
* [https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-7-7745HX-performance-debut-Lenovo-Legion-Pro-5-16-Gen-8-laptop-review.717942.0.html NotebookCheck Review]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnRMDaw_Jo GizmoSlipTech Review]
* [https://www.ultrabookreview.com/64152-lenovo-legion-pro-5i-review/ UltrabookReview]


M3 Max, 48 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD: [https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2023-M3-Max-Review-M3-Max-challenges-HX-CPUs-from-AMD-Intel.766414.0.html NoteBookCheck]
== Community Reception ==
 
=== Overall Sentiment ===
M3 Max, 48 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70o2dxlRkk0 MaxTech]
=== Problems Summary ===


== References ==
== References ==
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[[Category:Apple Laptops]]
[[Category:Lenovo Laptops]]
[[Category:MacBook Pro]]
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Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 16IRX8/16ARX8 (2023)
ManufacturerLenovo
Product familyLegion
Release dateJanuary 2023;
3 years ago
 (2023-01)
Introductory priceUSD 1139 to 2500
DiscontinuedNo
Operating systemWindows 11 Home
Windows 11 Pro
Windows 11 Home Single Language
No preload operating system
CPUAMD Ryzen 5 7645HX
AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX
AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX
Intel Core i5-13500HX
Intel Core i7-13650HX
Intel Core i7-13700HX
Intel Core i9-13900HX
MemoryUp to 32 GB DDR5-5200 (dual-channel)
Memory slots2 DDR5 SO-DIMM slots
StorageUp to 2 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
Storage slots2 x M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 slots
DisplayScreen size: 16 inch
Panel type: IPS
Coating: Anti-glare
Resolution: 2560 x 1600
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Refresh rate: 165 Hz or 240 Hz
Brightness: 300 nits or 500 nits
sRGB: 100 %
DCI-P3: 82.4 %
VRR: Yes
Screen-to-body ratio: 89 %
GraphicsNvidia GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop 6 GB GDDR6
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop 8 GB GDDR6 140 W
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop 8 GB GDDR6 140 W
SoundStereo speakers, 2W x2, optimized with Nahimic Audio
CameraFront: 1080p FHD with E-shutter, fixed focus
Front: 720p HD with E-shutter, fixed focus
TouchpadButtonless Mylar® surface multi-touch touchpad, 75 x 120 mm (2.95 x 4.72 inches)
ConnectivityWi-Fi 6, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2
Wi-Fi 6E, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2
1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 (Always On)
3 x USB 3.2 Gen 1
1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.4)
1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Lenovo Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort 1.4)
1 x HDMI 2.1
1 x Ethernet (RJ-45)
1 x Headphone / microphone combo jack (3.5mm)
DimensionsW: 36.3 centimetres (14.3 in)
D: 26.1 centimetres (10.3 in)
H: 2.67 centimetres (1.05 in)
Mass2.5 kilograms (5.5 lb)
Power brick230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter
BatteryIntegrated Li-Polymer 80Wh
Keyboard4-zone RGB backlit, Blue backlit, White backlit
ChassisColor: Onyx grey
Materials: Aluminium (top), PC-ABS (bottom)
Cooling: Legion Coldfront 5.0 cooling system
Number padYes
Fingerprint readerNo
Facial recognitionNo
Special featuresDolby Vision®, AMD FreeSync™, NVIDIA® G-SYNC®, Advanced Optimus support, TÜV Low Blue Light
WebsiteLenovo

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 16IRX8/16ARX8 (2023) is a mid-range gaming laptop designed to offer strong performance for both gaming and productivity tasks. It features AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors and Intel 13th Generation Core processors, along with Nvidia RTX 40-series GPUs, making it suitable for demanding applications and modern gaming. The laptop is available in Onyx grey and offers a robust build quality with a mix of aluminum and PC-ABS materials.

Primary Hardware

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Processor

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 can be configured with the following processors[1]:

  • AMD Ryzen 5 7645HX with 6 cores and 12 threads, base frequency of 4.0 GHz, max frequency of 5.0 GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, and 32 MB L3 cache.
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX with 8 cores and 16 threads, base frequency of 3.6 GHz, max frequency of 5.1 GHz, 8 MB L2 cache, and 32 MB L3 cache.
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX with 16 cores and 32 threads, base frequency of 2.5 GHz, max frequency of 5.4 GHz, 16 MB L2 cache, and 64 MB L3 cache.
  • Intel Core i5-13500HX with 14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 20 threads, base frequency of 2.5 GHz, max frequency of 4.7 GHz, 24 MB cache.
  • Intel Core i7-13650HX with 14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 20 threads, base frequency of 2.6 GHz, max frequency of 4.9 GHz, 24 MB cache.
  • Intel Core i7-13700HX with 16 cores (8 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 24 threads, base frequency of 2.1 GHz, max frequency of 5.0 GHz, 30 MB cache.
  • Intel Core i9-13900HX with 24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) and 32 threads, base frequency of 2.2 GHz, max frequency of 5.4 GHz, 36 MB cache.

The AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX processor is particularly noted for its strong performance in both single-threaded and multi-threaded tasks. It competes closely with Intel's Core i7-13700HX in most benchmarks, making it a reasonable upgrade from previous models.[2]

Reviewers have praised the processors for their performance in productivity and gaming tasks. The Ryzen 7 7745HX, for example, scored 13,063 points in Geekbench 6 multi-core tests, outperforming many competitors in its class.[3] The Ryzen 5 7645HX also performs well, handling general productivity tasks and demanding multi-threaded workloads efficiently.[4]

Benchmarks:

  • Cinebench R23:
    • Ryzen 7 7745HX: ~18,453 points (multi-core), ~1,846 points (single-core)[2]
  • Geekbench 6:
    • Ryzen 7 7745HX: ~13,063 points (multi-core)[3]
    • Ryzen 5 7645HX: ~10,156 points (multi-core)[4]

Graphics

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers the following GPU configurations[1]:

The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 GPU is designed for high-performance gaming and content creation, capable of running modern titles smoothly at high settings. The RTX 4060 and RTX 4050 also provide good performance for 1080p and 1440p gaming.[5]

Reviewers have noted that the GPU performance is strong, with the RTX 4070 achieving playable frame rates in demanding games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Assassin’s Creed Valhalla.[6] The RTX 4070 also performed well in synthetic benchmarks, scoring 12,431 points in 3DMark Time Spy.[2]

Benchmarks:

  • 3DMark Time Spy:
    • RTX 4070: ~12,431 points[2]
  • Cyberpunk 2077:
    • RTX 4070: ~69.2 FPS (Ray Tracing: Ultra, DLSS enabled)[6]
  • Assassin’s Creed Valhalla:
    • RTX 4070: ~113 FPS[6]
  • Borderlands 3:
    • RTX 4070: ~110 FPS (1080p, max settings)[3]

Memory

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 supports dual-channel memory and comes with the following configurations[1]:

  • 16 GB DDR5-5200 RAM (2x 8 GB)
  • 32 GB DDR5-5200 RAM (2x 16 GB)

The memory is user-replaceable, allowing for future upgrades. The RAM provides good performance for multitasking and demanding applications.[4][5]

Benchmarks:

  • AIDA64 Memory Copy: ~51,937 MB/s[2]
  • AIDA64 Memory Read: ~52,491 MB/s[2]

Storage

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers the following storage options[1]:

  • 512 GB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
  • 1 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
  • 2 TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD

The storage is user-replaceable, and the SSD offers fast read and write speeds. Reviewers have noted that the SSD provides excellent performance, with quick load times and ample space for games and applications.[3][4]

Benchmarks:

  • CrystalDiskMark:
    • Read Seq Q32T1: ~7,110 MB/s[2]
    • Write Seq Q32T1: ~5,259 MB/s[2]

Co-processors

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not include any additional co-processors.[1]

Input Devices

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Keyboard

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers a full-sized keyboard with the following options[1]:

  • 4-zone RGB backlit keyboard
  • Blue backlit keyboard
  • White backlit keyboard

Reviewers have noted that the keyboard is comfortable for typing and gaming, with good feedback and key travel. The keycaps are steady, with a nice bit of resistance and pop for an enjoyable typing experience.[5][3]

Touchpad

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a buttonless Mylar® surface multi-touch touchpad measuring 75 x 120 mm (2.95 x 4.72 inches). The touchpad is responsive and supports gestures and two-finger scrolling effectively.[1][5]

Webcam

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with a 1080p FHD webcam with E-shutter and fixed focus. The webcam supports decent video quality, though some details may appear grainy in low-light conditions.[5][6]

Microphone

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes an integrated dual-microphone array. Reviewers have noted that the microphone quality is standard for a laptop, suitable for casual use but not exceptional.[5]

Output Devices

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Display

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a 16-inch IPS display with the following configurations[1]:

  • 2560 x 1600 resolution, 165 Hz refresh rate, 300 nits brightness, 100% sRGB color gamut
  • 2560 x 1600 resolution, 240 Hz refresh rate, 500 nits brightness, DCI-P3 color gamut

The display offers good speed and sharpness, with reviewers noting that it is suitable for gaming and productivity. However, the brightness levels are considered average, making it less ideal for use in direct sunlight.[6][5]

Benchmarks:

  • Maximum Brightness: ~318.6 nits[6]
  • ΔE Color: ~0.17[6]
  • sRGB Coverage: ~99.99%[4]

Audio

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with stereo speakers, 2W x2, optimized with Nahimic Audio. The speakers provide sufficient volume for casual listening but lack bass and impact. They are positioned on the bottom of the laptop, which diminishes sound quality compared to speakers mounted atop the keyboard deck.[5][6]

Connectivity

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WiFi

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 offers two Wi-Fi options[1]:

  • Wi-Fi 6, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Wi-Fi 6E, 802.11ax 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.2

Reviewers have noted that the Wi-Fi performance is reliable, supporting high-speed connections with good range.[4]

Benchmarks:

  • iperf3 transmit AXE11000: ~1347 MBit/s[2]
  • iperf3 receive AXE11000: ~1619 MBit/s[2]

Bluetooth

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes Bluetooth 5.2, depending on the Wi-Fi module selected.[1]

SD Card Reader

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not include an SD card reader.[1]

USB

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is equipped with the following USB ports[1]:

  • 1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 (Always On)
  • 3 x USB 3.2 Gen 1
  • 1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.4)
  • 1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Lenovo Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort 1.4)

Reviewers have noted that the port selection is robust, allowing for various connectivity options, including a USB-C port that supports up to 140 watts of power delivery.[5][6]

Display Outputs

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 includes the following display outputs[1]:

  • 1 x HDMI 2.1

The HDMI port connects directly to the dedicated GPU, supporting 4K 120Hz output with G-Sync.[5][6]

Case

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features a full-aluminum chassis available in Onyx grey. The laptop is somewhat bulky but manageable for a gaming laptop, with dimensions of 36.3 centimetres (14.3 in) x 26.1 centimetres (10.3 in) x 2.67 centimetres (1.05 in) and a weight starting at 2.5 kilograms (5.5 lb).[1]

The design is robust and tanky, with ample cooling vents and a solid build quality. However, reviewers have noted that the laptop is heavy, making it less portable.[5][6]

Maintenance

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is designed to be user-serviceable to some extent. The bottom panel is secured by ten screws, making it relatively easy to open. The RAM and storage are user-replaceable, allowing for future upgrades.[4]

Upgradeable components:[4]

  • M.2 2280 PCIe4 x4 SSD (user-replaceable)
  • RAM (user-replaceable)

Cooling System

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 features the Legion Coldfront 5.0 cooling system with multiple exhaust vents. The cooling system is effective, keeping surface temperatures manageable even under heavy load.[1][2]

Heat

The cooling system is effective, keeping surface temperatures manageable even under heavy load. The warmest area is the keyboard center, but it remains cooler than expected for a gaming laptop. Reviewers have noted that the laptop manages heat well, with effective cooling solutions in place to prevent overheating during extended gaming sessions.[2][6]

Benchmarks:

  • Maximum upper side: ~42.8 °C[2]
  • Maximum bottom: ~50 °C[2]

Noise

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is noted for its fan noise, which can become noticeable under heavy loads. The fans are generally acceptable during gaming sessions, though they can get loud, making it necessary to use headphones for an optimal experience.[6][2]

Benchmarks:

  • Idle: ~23.1 dB(A)[2]
  • Load: ~54.8 dB(A)[2]

Energy Management

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Power Consumption

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 ships with either a 230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter. The laptop is efficient in its power usage, balancing performance and efficiency. However, it has specific charging requirements, making it picky about chargers.[1][2]

Benchmarks:

  • Idle: ~24.5 / 29.2 / 34.3 W[2]
  • Load: ~98.7 / 249.6 W[2]

Battery Life

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with an 80Wh Li-Polymer battery. The battery supports Super Rapid Charge Pro, with Lenovo claiming it can charge up to 40% in 10 minutes, 80% in 30 minutes, and 100% in 60 minutes. Reviewers have noted that the battery life is decent for a gaming laptop, with around four to five hours of light use.[1][4]

Benchmarks:

  • WiFi Websurfing: ~3h 25min[2]
  • Video Playback: ~3h 42min[4]
  • Gaming: ~1h 01min[2]
  • Laptop Mag Battery Test: ~4h 38min[3]

Biometrics

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 does not support Windows Hello face recognition or include a fingerprint reader.[1]

Software

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 ships with Windows 11 Home, Windows 11 Pro, Windows 11 Home Single Language, or no preload operating system, depending on the configuration. The laptop comes with several preinstalled Lenovo apps and software.

Preinstalled Software

  • Lenovo Vantage: Acts as the primary control center for system vitals, lighting, power, and fan profiles.
  • McAfee LiveSafe™ (bloatware)
  • Legion Arena: A game launcher for managing and launching games.
  • Dolby Vision
  • Lenovo Hotkey
  • Lenovo Vantage
  • McAfee antivirus

Linux Support

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 has limited Linux support. Some distributions may face compatibility issues, particularly with Wi-Fi and brightness controls.[4]

Accessories & Warranty

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The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 comes with a 230W or 300W slim tip (3-pin) AC adapter and paperwork. The laptop includes a one-year limited manufacturer warranty if purchased in the US.[1]

Reviews Summary

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Overall Sentiment

The Lenovo Legion Pro 5/5i Gen 8 is considered a strong contender in the mid-range gaming laptop market. It is praised for its performance, build quality, and overall value. The laptop is suitable for both gaming and productivity tasks, offering a balance between performance and price. However, it has some drawbacks, such as fan noise, weight, and limited battery life.[5][6][4][3][2]

Problems Summary

  • Fan noise can be loud under heavy loads.
  • Heavy and bulky, making it less portable.
  • Limited battery life, especially during gaming sessions.
  • No biometrics (fingerprint reader or face recognition).
  • Average brightness levels, making it less ideal for use in direct sunlight.

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