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  | os = [[Windows 10 Pro 64]]<br>[[Windows 10 Home 64]]<br>[[Windows 10 Home Single Language 64]]<br>[[FreeDOS 1.2]]
   | power = 35W<br>65W<br>95W
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   | graphics = [[Intel UHD Graphics 630]]<br>[[Intel UHD Graphics 610]]
   | graphics = [[Intel UHD Graphics 630]]<br>[[Intel UHD Graphics 610]]
   | sound = ~~Conexant CX20632 Audio Codec~~
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   | connectivity = Single 1Gbit Ethernet port, WiFi module optional (M.2 WiFi slot, antenna not included in non WiFi units)
   | connectivity = Single 1Gbit Ethernet port, WiFi module optional (M.2 WiFi slot, antenna not included in non WiFi units)
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   | platform = Intel Q370 Chipset
   | platform = Intel B360<ref>https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06047054#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20B360,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore</ref>/Q370<ref>https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06057132#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20Q370,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore</ref>Chipset
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   | website = [https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications]
   | website = [https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications]
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== Configuration Summary ==
'''''Editors note''': I own one HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini, one ProDesk 600 G4 Mini and one EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini<br>Some of the information, like Network Card chipsets, come from my own units and might vary from unit to unit''
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== Differences ==
|+
!Model
!ProDesk 400 G4 Mini
!ProDesk 600 G4 Mini
!EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini
|-
!Processor
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) 
Intel 8th gen Desktop (65W, 95W)
|-
!Chipset
|Intel B360
|Intel Q370
|Intel Q370
|-
!Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics 
AMD Radeon RX560 4GB
|-
!Memory
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|-
!Storage
|1x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|-
!Networking
|1 Gigabit Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|-
!Management
|No
|No
|Intel vPro, 
Intel ME, 
Intel AMT
|-
!Expansion
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 
1x proprietary graphics card port
|-
!Power
|35W CPU, 65W power supply
|35W CPU, 65W power supply
|35W CPU, 65W PSU 
65W CPU, 95W PSU 
65W CPU, 150W PSU (required for Radeon GPU)
|}


== Primary Hardware ==
== Primary Hardware ==
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=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 |title=HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications |publisher=HP}}</ref>:
The HP G4 Mini can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 |title=HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications |publisher=HP}}</ref>:
* [[Intel Core i7-8700T]]: 6 cores, 12 threads, 2.4 GHz base frequency, up to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost, 12 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i7-8700T]]: 6 cores, 12 threads, 2.4 GHz base frequency, up to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost, 12 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i5-8600T]]: 6 cores, 6 threads, 2.3 GHz base frequency, up to 3.7 GHz with Turbo Boost, 9 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i5-8600T]]: 6 cores, 6 threads, 2.3 GHz base frequency, up to 3.7 GHz with Turbo Boost, 9 MB cache, 35 W TDP
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* [[Intel Pentium Gold G5400T]]: 2 cores, 4 threads, 3.1 GHz base frequency, 4 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Pentium Gold G5400T]]: 2 cores, 4 threads, 3.1 GHz base frequency, 4 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Celeron G4900T]]: 2 cores, 2 threads, 2.9 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Celeron G4900T]]: 2 cores, 2 threads, 2.9 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 35 W TDP
Non T CPUs supported on 65W and 95W SKUs of 400 G4 , 600 G4 and 800 G4. Vast majority of models on the user market are 35W variants.


* Non T CPUs supported on 65W and 95W SKUs of 400 G4 , 600 G4 and 800 G4. Vast majority of models on the user market are 35W variants.
Some users also report it is possible to use 9th gen CPUs in the G4 and 8th gen CPUs in the G5<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srwc_PFbXXs</ref>


=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
* Intel HD graphics
* Intel HD graphics (HD630, HD610) depending on the CPU
* AMD Radeon RX 560, proprietary module, only for 95W models
* AMD Radeon RX 560, proprietary module, only for 95W models<ref>https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06045012#:~:text=AMD%20Radeon%20RX560%204%20GB%20GDDR5</ref>


=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
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=== [[Storage]] ===
=== [[Storage]] ===
* All 3 SKUs have a proprietary SATA port [https://www.ebay.com/itm/235540765970 for a ribbon cable adapter]
* All 3 variants have a proprietary SATA port [https://www.ebay.com/itm/235540765970 for a ribbon cable adapter]
** HDD bay is not included unless purchased with a HDD when new
** HDD bay is not included unless purchased with a HDD when new
** Some HDD caddys might include a fan. Some users report a FAN error when SATA drive is connected without a drive caddy fan
** Some HDD caddys might include a fan. Some users report a FAN error when SATA drive is connected without a drive caddy fan<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/vve1l7/hp_elitedesk_800_g4_mini_hdd_error/</ref>
** It is possible to 3D print a drive bracket from PETG plastic
** It is possible to 3D print a drive bracket from PETG plastic
* Two M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots on ProDesk 600 G4 and EliteDesk 800 G4
* Two M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots on ProDesk 600 G4 and EliteDesk 800 G4
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== Connectivity ==
== Connectivity ==
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=== [[Networking/Communications]] ===
=== [[Networking/Communications]] ===
* Single 1Gbit Ethernet network adapter
* Single 1Gbit Ethernet network adapter
** HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini: Realtek
** HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
** HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM (Can cause issues with Proxmox and network adapter resets, see [https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/e1000e-unexpected-adapter-resets.89459/ Proxmox Forum])
** HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM (Can cause issues with Proxmox and network adapter resets, see [https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/e1000e-unexpected-adapter-resets.89459/ Proxmox Forum])
** HP ProDesk 800 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM
** HP ProDesk 800 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM
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** HDMI 1.4
** HDMI 1.4
** RS232 Serial
** RS232 Serial


== Power Supply ==
== Power Supply ==
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* System weight: 1.25 kg (2.75 lb)
* System weight: 1.25 kg (2.75 lb)
* Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)
* Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)
== Management ==
* Only EliteDesk 800 supports vPro, varies from SKU to SKU, check the Intel sticker on the chassis


== Community Reception ==
== Community Reception ==
* Very popular in homelab community
* Very popular in homelab community
* Great Linux compatibility
* Popular as a Proxmox hypervisor
* Quite cheap and have very low idle power
* Quite cheap and have very low idle power
* Part of lineup known as TinyMiniMicro, see [https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g4-mini-tinyminimicro-guide-review/ ServeTheHome review]
* Part of lineup known as TinyMiniMicro, see [https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g4-mini-tinyminimicro-guide-review/ ServeTheHome review]
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* BIOS boot menu empty - perform a BIOS update
* BIOS boot menu empty - perform a BIOS update


== Pricing ==
* Expect to pay around 120€ to 150€ for a 35W model with an Intel Core i5 8500T, 8GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and 65W power supply as of August 2024
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Latest revision as of 12:45, 22 August 2024

HP ProDesk G4 Desktop Mini PC
ManufacturerHP
Product familyProDesk
GenerationG4
Release date2017;
9 years ago (2017)
DiscontinuedYes
MemoryUp to 64 GB, DDR4 2666MHz
Memory slots2 DDR4 SODIMM
Storage slotsUp to two M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots
Single 2.5 drive cage (optional)
Removable storageNo SD card slot
GraphicsIntel UHD Graphics 630
Intel UHD Graphics 610
SoundConexant CX20632 Audio Codec
ConnectivitySingle 1Gbit Ethernet port, WiFi module optional (M.2 WiFi slot, antenna not included in non WiFi units)
Power35W
65W
95W
PlatformIntel B360[1]/Q370[2]Chipset
DimensionsW: 6.97 inches (17.7 cm)
D: 6.89 inches (17.5 cm)
H: 1.35 inches (3.4 cm)
Mass2.75 pounds (1.25 kg)
PredecessorHP G3 Mini
SuccessorHP G5 Mini
WebsiteHP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications

All statements attributed to reviews are the reviewer's own opinion. Note that these claims were accurate at the time of publication and may be dated when you are reading this article. Read more.

Configuration Summary

Model ProDesk 400 G4 Mini ProDesk 600 G4 Mini EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini
Processor Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)

Intel 8th gen Desktop (65W, 95W)

Chipset Intel B360 Intel Q370 Intel Q370
Graphics Intel HD Graphics Intel HD Graphics Intel HD Graphics

AMD Radeon RX560 4GB

Memory 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
Storage 1x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

Networking 1 Gigabit Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

Management No No Intel vPro,

Intel ME, Intel AMT

Expansion 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot

1x proprietary graphics card port

Power 35W CPU, 65W power supply 35W CPU, 65W power supply 35W CPU, 65W PSU

65W CPU, 95W PSU 65W CPU, 150W PSU (required for Radeon GPU)

Primary Hardware

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Processor

The HP G4 Mini can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including[3]:

Non T CPUs supported on 65W and 95W SKUs of 400 G4 , 600 G4 and 800 G4. Vast majority of models on the user market are 35W variants.

Some users also report it is possible to use 9th gen CPUs in the G4 and 8th gen CPUs in the G5[4]

Graphics

  • Intel HD graphics (HD630, HD610) depending on the CPU
  • AMD Radeon RX 560, proprietary module, only for 95W models[5]

Memory

  • 2 DDR4 SODIMM slots
  • Up to 64GB of RAM (tested with 2 x 32GB modules)
  • Limited to 2666MHz (3200MHz memory will work but will be downlocked

Storage

  • All 3 variants have a proprietary SATA port for a ribbon cable adapter
    • HDD bay is not included unless purchased with a HDD when new
    • Some HDD caddys might include a fan. Some users report a FAN error when SATA drive is connected without a drive caddy fan[6]
    • It is possible to 3D print a drive bracket from PETG plastic
  • Two M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots on ProDesk 600 G4 and EliteDesk 800 G4
    • With OEM HDD caddy only one M.2 2280 slot can be used. Recommended to use a 3D printed bracket if used with a 2.5inch SSD
  • Single M.2 M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slot on ProDesk 400 G4
  • 2TB SSD tested in M.2 slot
    • Can most likely accept 8TB or larger SSDs
    • Downclocking from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0 works

Output Devices

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Audio

  • Conexant CX20632 Audio Codec
  • 2 W class D mono amplifier for the internal speaker[3]:
  • Headset connector (front) supporting CTIA style headsets, retaskable as Line-in, Line-out, Microphone-in, or Headphone-out
  • Headphone port (front)
  • Line-out port (rear), Optional

Connectivity

Networking/Communications

  • Single 1Gbit Ethernet network adapter
    • HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
    • HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM (Can cause issues with Proxmox and network adapter resets, see Proxmox Forum)
    • HP ProDesk 800 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM

Ports/Slots/Bays

  • Standard Ports:
    • 2 x DisplayPort 1.2 (rear)
    • 4 x USB 2.0 (rear)
    • 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (rear)
    • 1 x USB C (front), ProDesk 600 G4 Mini and EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini only
    • 1 x Headphone (front)
    • 1 x Universal Audio Jack with CTIA headset support (front)
    • 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet (rear)
    • 1 x Optional Serial RS-232 (rear)
    • 1 x 2.5 SATA port (internal), proprietary, port always included but ribbon cable optional, combined power and data
    • M.2 2230 PCIe 3.0 1x slot for WiFi cards, A+E key (Also possible to use with 2.5Gig network cards)
  • 1x HP FlexIO V1 expansion slot
    Possible cards[7]
    • DisplayPort
    • VGA
    • USB C (10Gbit, DisplayPort, 15W power out)
    • HDMI 1.4
    • RS232 Serial

Power Supply

  • External power brick
  • 35W models - 65W power supply
  • 65W models - 90W power supply
  • 95W models - 150W power supply

Physical Specifications

  • Chassis dimensions (W x D x H): 177.03 x 175.0 x 34.29 mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.35 in)
  • Packaged dimensions (W x D x H): 497.07 x 128.01 x 223.01 mm (19.57 x 5.04 x 8.78 in)
  • System volume: 64 cu in (1.05 L)
  • System weight: 1.25 kg (2.75 lb)
  • Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)

Management

  • Only EliteDesk 800 supports vPro, varies from SKU to SKU, check the Intel sticker on the chassis

Community Reception

  • Very popular in homelab community
  • Great Linux compatibility
  • Popular as a Proxmox hypervisor
  • Quite cheap and have very low idle power
  • Part of lineup known as TinyMiniMicro, see ServeTheHome review

Problems Summary

  • Intel I219 network card prone to crashes under sustained load in Debian, see Proxmox Forums
  • BIOS boot menu empty - perform a BIOS update

Pricing

  • Expect to pay around 120€ to 150€ for a 35W model with an Intel Core i5 8500T, 8GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and 65W power supply as of August 2024

References

  1. ↑ https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06047054#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20B360,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore
  2. ↑ https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06057132#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20Q370,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 "HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications". HP.
  4. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srwc_PFbXXs
  5. ↑ https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06045012#:~:text=AMD%20Radeon%20RX560%204%20GB%20GDDR5
  6. ↑ https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/vve1l7/hp_elitedesk_800_g4_mini_hdd_error/
  7. ↑ https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c06042607
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