HP ProDesk 400/600/ EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini: Difference between revisions

From ProdWiki
No edit summary
(Editors note is not necessary)
 
(21 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Infobox computing device
{{Infobox computing device
   | name = HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC (2017)
   | name = HP ProDesk G4 Desktop Mini PC
   | title =  
   | title =  
   | aka =  
   | aka =  
Line 11: Line 11:
   | family = [[ProDesk]]
   | family = [[ProDesk]]
   | type =  
   | type =  
   | generation =  
   | generation = [[G4]]
   | release date = {{Start date and age|2017|df=yes|br=y}}
   | release date = {{Start date and age|2017|df=yes|br=y}}
   | lifespan =  
   | lifespan =  
   | price =  
   | price =  
   | discontinued = No
   | discontinued = Yes
   | units sold =  
   | units sold =  
   | units shipped =  
   | units shipped =  
   | media =  
   | media =  
   | os = [[Windows 10 Pro 64]]<br>[[Windows 10 Home 64]]<br>[[Windows 10 Home Single Language 64]]<br>[[FreeDOS 1.2]]
   | power = 35W<br>65W<br>95W
  | power =
   | soc =  
   | soc =  
   | cpu = [[Intel Core i7-8700T]]<br>[[Intel Core i5-8600T]]<br>[[Intel Core i5-8500T]]<br>[[Intel Core i3-8300T]]<br>[[Intel Core i3-8100T]]<br>[[Intel Pentium Gold G5500T]]<br>[[Intel Pentium Gold G5400T]]<br>[[Intel Celeron G4900T]]
   | cpu =  
   | memory = 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB, or 32 GB DDR4-2666 (2 SODIMM slots, up to 32 GB)
   | memory = Up to 64 GB, DDR4 2666MHz
   | memory slots = 2 user accessible
   | memory slots = 2 DDR4 SODIMM
   | storage = 500 GB, 1 TB, or 2 TB SATA HDD<br>500 GB, 1 TB, or 2 TB SSHD<br>256 GB or 512 GB SATA SSD<br>128 GB, 256 GB, or 512 GB PCIe NVMe SSD
   | storage =  
   | storage slots = 1 x 2.5 in internal drive bay<br>1 x M.2 PCIe x4 slot
   | storage slots = Up to two M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots<br>Single 2.5 drive cage (optional)
   | memory card =  
   | memory card = No SD card slot
   | camera =  
   | camera =  
   | display =  
   | display =  
Line 35: Line 34:
   | controllers =  
   | controllers =  
   | touchpad =  
   | touchpad =  
   | connectivity = Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG Gigabit Ethernet<br>Optional Intel 9560 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth<br>Optional Intel 7265 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth<br>Optional Intel 3168 802.11ac 1x1 with Bluetooth<br>Optional Realtek RTL8822BE 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth<br>Optional Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac 1x1 with Bluetooth<br>Optional Realtek RTL8723DE 802.11b/g/n 1x1 with Bluetooth
   | connectivity = Single 1Gbit Ethernet port, WiFi module optional (M.2 WiFi slot, antenna not included in non WiFi units)
   | currentfw =  
   | currentfw =  
   | platform =  
   | platform = Intel B360<ref>https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06047054#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20B360,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore</ref>/Q370<ref>https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06057132#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20Q370,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore</ref>Chipset
   | service =  
   | service =  
   | dimensions = '''W''': {{convert|6.97|in|cm}} <br/>'''D''': {{convert|6.89|in|cm}} <br/>'''H''': {{convert|1.35|in|cm}}
   | dimensions = '''W''': {{convert|6.97|in|cm}} <br/>'''D''': {{convert|6.89|in|cm}} <br/>'''H''': {{convert|1.35|in|cm}}
Line 51: Line 50:
   | topgame =  
   | topgame =  
   | compatibility =  
   | compatibility =  
   | predecessor =  
   | predecessor = HP G3 Mini
   | successor =  
   | successor = HP G5 Mini
   | related =  
   | related =  
   | website = [https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications]
   | website = [https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications]
   }}
   }}
{{ReviewNotice}}
{{ReviewNotice}}
{{CheckAI}}
== Configuration Summary ==
The '''HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC (2017)''' is a compact and versatile business desktop designed for professional environments. It offers a range of configurations to meet various business needs, from basic office tasks to more demanding applications.
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible"
|+
!Model
!ProDesk 400 G4 Mini
!ProDesk 600 G4 Mini
!EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini
|-
!Processor
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)
|Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) 
Intel 8th gen Desktop (65W, 95W)
|-
!Chipset
|Intel B360
|Intel Q370
|Intel Q370
|-
!Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics
|Intel HD Graphics 
AMD Radeon RX560 4GB
|-
!Memory
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
|-
!Storage
|1x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot, 
proprietary 2.5 SATA port
|-
!Networking
|1 Gigabit Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM, 
M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)
|-
!Management
|No
|No
|Intel vPro, 
Intel ME, 
Intel AMT
|-
!Expansion
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot
|1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 
1x proprietary graphics card port
|-
!Power
|35W CPU, 65W power supply
|35W CPU, 65W power supply
|35W CPU, 65W PSU 
65W CPU, 95W PSU 
65W CPU, 150W PSU (required for Radeon GPU)
|}


== Primary Hardware ==
== Primary Hardware ==
{{CheckAI}}
{{CheckAI}}
=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
=== [[Central Processing Unit (CPU)|Processor]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 |title=HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications |publisher=HP}}</ref>:
The HP G4 Mini can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including<ref name="specs">{{cite web |url=https://support.hp.com/vn-en/document/c06047054 |title=HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications |publisher=HP}}</ref>:
* [[Intel Core i7-8700T]]: 6 cores, 12 threads, 2.4 GHz base frequency, up to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost, 12 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i7-8700T]]: 6 cores, 12 threads, 2.4 GHz base frequency, up to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost, 12 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i5-8600T]]: 6 cores, 6 threads, 2.3 GHz base frequency, up to 3.7 GHz with Turbo Boost, 9 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Core i5-8600T]]: 6 cores, 6 threads, 2.3 GHz base frequency, up to 3.7 GHz with Turbo Boost, 9 MB cache, 35 W TDP
Line 73: Line 135:
* [[Intel Pentium Gold G5400T]]: 2 cores, 4 threads, 3.1 GHz base frequency, 4 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Pentium Gold G5400T]]: 2 cores, 4 threads, 3.1 GHz base frequency, 4 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Celeron G4900T]]: 2 cores, 2 threads, 2.9 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 35 W TDP
* [[Intel Celeron G4900T]]: 2 cores, 2 threads, 2.9 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 35 W TDP
Non T CPUs supported on 65W and 95W SKUs of 400 G4 , 600 G4 and 800 G4. Vast majority of models on the user market are 35W variants.


The processors are designed to handle a range of business applications, from basic tasks like word processing and web browsing to more intensive applications like data analysis and content creation. The Intel Core i7-8700T, in particular, offers high performance with its six cores and twelve threads, making it suitable for multitasking and demanding workloads.
Some users also report it is possible to use 9th gen CPUs in the G4 and 8th gen CPUs in the G5<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srwc_PFbXXs</ref>


=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
=== [[Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)|Graphics]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC comes with integrated Intel UHD Graphics, which vary depending on the processor<ref name="specs" />:
* Intel HD graphics (HD630, HD610) depending on the CPU
* [[Intel UHD Graphics 630]]: Available with Intel Core i7, i5, and i3 processors, as well as the Intel Pentium Gold G5500T
* AMD Radeon RX 560, proprietary module, only for 95W models<ref>https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06045012#:~:text=AMD%20Radeon%20RX560%204%20GB%20GDDR5</ref>
* [[Intel UHD Graphics 610]]: Available with the Intel Pentium Gold G5400T and Intel Celeron G4900T
 
The integrated graphics are suitable for general business use, including office applications, web browsing, and video playback. They also support multiple displays, which can enhance productivity in a business environment.


=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
=== [[Random Access Memory (RAM)|Memory]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC supports DDR4-2666 memory, with a maximum capacity of 32 GB. The system has two SODIMM slots, both of which are user-accessible and upgradeable<ref name="specs" />. Memory configurations include:
* 2 DDR4 SODIMM slots
* 4 GB (1 x 4 GB)
* Up to 64GB of RAM (tested with 2 x 32GB modules)
* 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
* Limited to 2666MHz (3200MHz memory will work but will be downlocked
* 8 GB (1 x 8 GB)
* 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
* 16 GB (1 x 16 GB)
* 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
 
The memory modules support data transfer rates up to 2666 MT/s, although the actual data rate is determined by the system's configured processor.


=== [[Storage]] ===
=== [[Storage]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC offers a variety of storage options to meet different business needs<ref name="specs" />:
* All 3 variants have a proprietary SATA port [https://www.ebay.com/itm/235540765970 for a ribbon cable adapter]
* SATA HDD: 500 GB, 1 TB, or 2 TB (7.2K rpm)
** HDD bay is not included unless purchased with a HDD when new
* SSHD: 500 GB, 1 TB, or 2 TB (5.4K rpm) with 8 GB hybrid
** Some HDD caddys might include a fan. Some users report a FAN error when SATA drive is connected without a drive caddy fan<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/vve1l7/hp_elitedesk_800_g4_mini_hdd_error/</ref>
* SATA SSD: 256 GB or 512 GB
** It is possible to 3D print a drive bracket from PETG plastic
* PCIe NVMe SSD: 128 GB, 256 GB, or 512 GB
* Two M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots on ProDesk 600 G4 and EliteDesk 800 G4
 
** With OEM HDD caddy only one M.2 2280 slot can be used. Recommended to use a 3D printed bracket if used with a 2.5inch SSD
The system includes one 2.5-inch internal drive bay and one M.2 PCIe x4 slot, allowing for flexible storage configurations and easy upgrades.
* Single M.2 M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slot on ProDesk 400 G4
 
== Input Devices ==
{{CheckAI}}
=== [[Keyboard]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC can be paired with various HP keyboards, including<ref name="specs" />:
* HP USB Business Slim Standalone Wired Keyboard
* HP USB Business Slim Wired SmartCard CCID Keyboard
* HP USB & PS/2 Washable Standalone Wired Keyboard
* HP Collaboration Wireless Keyboard
* HP USB Collaboration Wired Keyboard
* HP USB Conferencing Wired Keyboard
* HP USB Wired Keyboard
 
=== [[Mouse]] ===
The system can also be paired with different HP mice, such as<ref name="specs" />:
* HP USB Universal Wired Mouse
* HP USB Optical Mouse
* HP USB Hardened Mouse
* HP USB 1000dpi Laser Mouse
* HP USB & PS/2 Washable Wired Mouse
* HP USB Premium Wired Mouse


=== [[Combos]] ===
* 2TB SSD tested in M.2 slot
HP offers keyboard and mouse combos for the ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC<ref name="specs" />:
** Can most likely accept 8TB or larger SSDs
* HP Premium Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
** Downclocking from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0 works
* HP Business Slim Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
* HP USB Keyboard and Mouse Healthcare Edition
* HP USB Keyboard and Mouse Wired Value


== Output Devices ==
== Output Devices ==
{{CheckAI}}
{{CheckAI}}
=== [[Audio]] ===
=== [[Audio]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC features integrated audio with the Conexant CX20632 Audio Codec. It includes a 2 W class D mono amplifier for the internal speaker and various audio ports<ref name="specs" />:
* Conexant CX20632 Audio Codec
* 2 W class D mono amplifier for the internal speaker<ref name="specs" />:
* Headset connector (front) supporting CTIA style headsets, retaskable as Line-in, Line-out, Microphone-in, or Headphone-out
* Headset connector (front) supporting CTIA style headsets, retaskable as Line-in, Line-out, Microphone-in, or Headphone-out
* Headphone port (front)
* Headphone port (front)
* Line-out port (rear)
* Line-out port (rear), Optional


== Connectivity ==
== Connectivity ==
{{CheckAI}}
=== [[Networking/Communications]] ===
=== [[Networking/Communications]] ===
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC includes integrated Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG Gigabit Ethernet for wired networking. Optional wireless LAN configurations are available, including<ref name="specs" />:
* Single 1Gbit Ethernet network adapter
* Intel 9560 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth
** HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
* Intel 7265 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth
** HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM (Can cause issues with Proxmox and network adapter resets, see [https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/e1000e-unexpected-adapter-resets.89459/ Proxmox Forum])
* Intel 3168 802.11ac 1x1 with Bluetooth
** HP ProDesk 800 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM
* Realtek RTL8822BE 802.11ac 2x2 with Bluetooth
* Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac 1x1 with Bluetooth
* Realtek RTL8723DE 802.11b/g/n 1x1 with Bluetooth


=== [[Ports/Slots/Bays]] ===
=== [[Ports/Slots/Bays]] ===
The system includes a variety of ports and expansion options<ref name="specs" />:
* Standard Ports:
* Standard Ports:
** 2 x DisplayPort 1.2 (rear)
** 2 x DisplayPort 1.2 (rear)
** 4 x USB 2.0 (rear)
** 4 x USB 2.0 (rear)
** 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (rear)
** 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (rear)
** 1 x USB C (front), ProDesk 600 G4 Mini and EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini only
** 1 x Headphone (front)
** 1 x Headphone (front)
** 1 x Universal Audio Jack with CTIA headset support (front)
** 1 x Universal Audio Jack with CTIA headset support (front)
** 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet (rear)
** 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet (rear)
** 1 x Optional Serial RS-232 (rear)
** 1 x Optional Serial RS-232 (rear)
** 1 x DM SATA port (internal)
** 1 x 2.5 SATA port (internal), proprietary, port always included but ribbon cable optional, combined power and data
* Optional Ports:
** M.2 2230 PCIe 3.0 1x slot for WiFi cards, A+E key (Also possible to use with 2.5Gig network cards)
** 1 x DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 2.0, VGA, or USB Type-C with display output
* 1x HP FlexIO V1 expansion slot<br>Possible cards<ref>https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c06042607</ref>
 
** DisplayPort
Expansion slots include:
** VGA
* 1 x M.2 PCIe x1 2230 (for WLAN)
** USB C (10Gbit, DisplayPort, 15W power out)
* 1 x M.2 PCIe x4 2280/2230 Combo (for storage)
** HDMI 1.4
 
** RS232 Serial
The system also includes one 2.5-inch internal storage drive bay.
 
== Software/Security ==
{{CheckAI}}
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC comes with a range of pre-installed software and security features<ref name="specs" />:
* HP BIOSphere Gen4
* HP DriveLock/HP Automatic DriveLock
* BIOS Update via Network
* Power On Authentication
* Secure Erase (methods outlined in the National Institute of Standards and Technology Special Publication 800-88)
* Absolute Persistence Module
* Pre-boot Authentication
* HP Native Miracast Support
* HP Wireless Wakeup (select models only)
* HP SureConnect
* HP ePrint Driver with JetAdvantage
* HP Hotkey Support
* HP Recovery Manager
* HP Jumpstart
* HP Support Assistant (requires Windows and internet access)
* HP Noise Cancellation Software
* HP Velocity
* HP Sure Click
* Microsoft Defender
* HP WorkWise app (available as a free download on the App Store and Google Play)
* HP PhoneWise (might not be available with HP Workwise)
* HP Client Security Manager Gen4 (requires Windows and Intel 8th generation processors)
* HP Security Manager (including Credential Manager, HP Password Manager, HP Spare Key)
* HP Manageability & Integration Kit (MIK) (available for download)
* HP Device Access Manager


== Power Supply ==
== Power Supply ==
{{CheckAI}}
* External power brick
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC is powered by an external 65 W EPS power supply with 89% average efficiency at 115 V and 230 Vac<ref name="specs" />. The power supply specifications include:
* 35W models - 65W power supply
* Rated input current: 1.6 A
* 65W models - 90W power supply
* Operating voltage range: 90 - 264 VAC
* 95W models - 150W power supply
* Rated voltage range: 100 - 240 VAC
* Rated line frequency: 50 - 60 Hz
* Operating line frequency: 47 - 63 Hz
* DC output: 12 V
* Current leakage: Less than 500 µA at 264 Vac with the ground wire disconnected, less than 100 µA at 264 Vac with the ground wire intact


== Physical Specifications ==
== Physical Specifications ==
{{CheckAI}}
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC has the following physical specifications<ref name="specs" />:
* Chassis dimensions (W x D x H): 177.03 x 175.0 x 34.29 mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.35 in)
* Chassis dimensions (W x D x H): 177.03 x 175.0 x 34.29 mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.35 in)
* Packaged dimensions (W x D x H): 497.07 x 128.01 x 223.01 mm (19.57 x 5.04 x 8.78 in)
* Packaged dimensions (W x D x H): 497.07 x 128.01 x 223.01 mm (19.57 x 5.04 x 8.78 in)
Line 219: Line 209:
* Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)
* Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)


== Environmental Specifications ==
== Management ==
{{CheckAI}}
* Only EliteDesk 800 supports vPro, varies from SKU to SKU, check the Intel sticker on the chassis
The HP ProDesk 400/600/800 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC is designed to meet various environmental standards<ref name="specs" />:
* ENERGY STAR certified models available
* EPEAT registered where applicable/supported
* TAA compliant models available
* Operating temperature range: 5°C to 35°C
* Non-operating temperature range: -40°C to 66°C
* Relative humidity (at maximum inlet temperature): Operating: 5% to 90%, Non-operating: 5% to 90%
* Maximum altitude (unpressurized): Operating: 5,000 m, Non-operating: 50,000 ft (15,240 m)


== Community Reception ==
== Community Reception ==
=== Overall Sentiment ===
* Very popular in homelab community
* Great Linux compatibility
* Popular as a Proxmox hypervisor
* Quite cheap and have very low idle power
* Part of lineup known as TinyMiniMicro, see [https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g4-mini-tinyminimicro-guide-review/ ServeTheHome review]
=== Problems Summary ===
=== Problems Summary ===
* Intel I219 network card prone to crashes under sustained load in Debian, see [https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/e1000e-unexpected-adapter-resets.89459/ Proxmox Forums]
* BIOS boot menu empty - perform a BIOS update


== Pricing ==
* Expect to pay around 120€ to 150€ for a 35W model with an Intel Core i5 8500T, 8GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and 65W power supply as of August 2024
== References ==
== References ==
<references />
<references />
Line 239: Line 229:
[[Category:Desktops]]
[[Category:Desktops]]
[[Category:HP Desktops]]
[[Category:HP Desktops]]
[[Category:ProDesk]]
[[Category:Mini PC]]
[[Category:2017 Desktops]]

Latest revision as of 12:45, 22 August 2024

HP ProDesk G4 Desktop Mini PC
ManufacturerHP
Product familyProDesk
GenerationG4
Release date2017;
9 years ago
 (2017)
DiscontinuedYes
MemoryUp to 64 GB, DDR4 2666MHz
Memory slots2 DDR4 SODIMM
Storage slotsUp to two M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots
Single 2.5 drive cage (optional)
Removable storageNo SD card slot
GraphicsIntel UHD Graphics 630
Intel UHD Graphics 610
SoundConexant CX20632 Audio Codec
ConnectivitySingle 1Gbit Ethernet port, WiFi module optional (M.2 WiFi slot, antenna not included in non WiFi units)
Power35W
65W
95W
PlatformIntel B360[1]/Q370[2]Chipset
DimensionsW: 6.97 inches (17.7 cm)
D: 6.89 inches (17.5 cm)
H: 1.35 inches (3.4 cm)
Mass2.75 pounds (1.25 kg)
PredecessorHP G3 Mini
SuccessorHP G5 Mini
WebsiteHP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications

All statements attributed to reviews are the reviewer's own opinion. Note that these claims were accurate at the time of publication and may be dated when you are reading this article. Read more.

Configuration Summary

Model ProDesk 400 G4 Mini ProDesk 600 G4 Mini EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini
Processor Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W) Intel 8th gen Desktop T (35W)

Intel 8th gen Desktop (65W, 95W)

Chipset Intel B360 Intel Q370 Intel Q370
Graphics Intel HD Graphics Intel HD Graphics Intel HD Graphics

AMD Radeon RX560 4GB

Memory 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz 2x DDR4 memory slot, up to 2666MHz
Storage 1x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

2x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 slot,

proprietary 2.5 SATA port

Networking 1 Gigabit Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

1 Gigabit Intel I219-LM,

M.2 2230 A+E WiFi card slot (WiFi 6 antennas not included on non WiFi models)

Management No No Intel vPro,

Intel ME, Intel AMT

Expansion 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot 1x HP FlexIO v1 Slot

1x proprietary graphics card port

Power 35W CPU, 65W power supply 35W CPU, 65W power supply 35W CPU, 65W PSU

65W CPU, 95W PSU 65W CPU, 150W PSU (required for Radeon GPU)

Primary Hardware

This section was written by AI and requires review. Remove this after review.

Processor

The HP G4 Mini can be configured with a variety of Intel processors, including[3]:

Non T CPUs supported on 65W and 95W SKUs of 400 G4 , 600 G4 and 800 G4. Vast majority of models on the user market are 35W variants.

Some users also report it is possible to use 9th gen CPUs in the G4 and 8th gen CPUs in the G5[4]

Graphics

  • Intel HD graphics (HD630, HD610) depending on the CPU
  • AMD Radeon RX 560, proprietary module, only for 95W models[5]

Memory

  • 2 DDR4 SODIMM slots
  • Up to 64GB of RAM (tested with 2 x 32GB modules)
  • Limited to 2666MHz (3200MHz memory will work but will be downlocked

Storage

  • All 3 variants have a proprietary SATA port for a ribbon cable adapter
    • HDD bay is not included unless purchased with a HDD when new
    • Some HDD caddys might include a fan. Some users report a FAN error when SATA drive is connected without a drive caddy fan[6]
    • It is possible to 3D print a drive bracket from PETG plastic
  • Two M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slots on ProDesk 600 G4 and EliteDesk 800 G4
    • With OEM HDD caddy only one M.2 2280 slot can be used. Recommended to use a 3D printed bracket if used with a 2.5inch SSD
  • Single M.2 M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 4x slot on ProDesk 400 G4
  • 2TB SSD tested in M.2 slot
    • Can most likely accept 8TB or larger SSDs
    • Downclocking from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0 works

Output Devices

This section was written by AI and requires review. Remove this after review.

Audio

  • Conexant CX20632 Audio Codec
  • 2 W class D mono amplifier for the internal speaker[3]:
  • Headset connector (front) supporting CTIA style headsets, retaskable as Line-in, Line-out, Microphone-in, or Headphone-out
  • Headphone port (front)
  • Line-out port (rear), Optional

Connectivity

Networking/Communications

  • Single 1Gbit Ethernet network adapter
    • HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
    • HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM (Can cause issues with Proxmox and network adapter resets, see Proxmox Forum)
    • HP ProDesk 800 G4 Mini: Intel I219-LM

Ports/Slots/Bays

  • Standard Ports:
    • 2 x DisplayPort 1.2 (rear)
    • 4 x USB 2.0 (rear)
    • 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (rear)
    • 1 x USB C (front), ProDesk 600 G4 Mini and EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini only
    • 1 x Headphone (front)
    • 1 x Universal Audio Jack with CTIA headset support (front)
    • 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet (rear)
    • 1 x Optional Serial RS-232 (rear)
    • 1 x 2.5 SATA port (internal), proprietary, port always included but ribbon cable optional, combined power and data
    • M.2 2230 PCIe 3.0 1x slot for WiFi cards, A+E key (Also possible to use with 2.5Gig network cards)
  • 1x HP FlexIO V1 expansion slot
    Possible cards[7]
    • DisplayPort
    • VGA
    • USB C (10Gbit, DisplayPort, 15W power out)
    • HDMI 1.4
    • RS232 Serial

Power Supply

  • External power brick
  • 35W models - 65W power supply
  • 65W models - 90W power supply
  • 95W models - 150W power supply

Physical Specifications

  • Chassis dimensions (W x D x H): 177.03 x 175.0 x 34.29 mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.35 in)
  • Packaged dimensions (W x D x H): 497.07 x 128.01 x 223.01 mm (19.57 x 5.04 x 8.78 in)
  • System volume: 64 cu in (1.05 L)
  • System weight: 1.25 kg (2.75 lb)
  • Shipping weight: 2.97 kg (6.55 lb)

Management

  • Only EliteDesk 800 supports vPro, varies from SKU to SKU, check the Intel sticker on the chassis

Community Reception

  • Very popular in homelab community
  • Great Linux compatibility
  • Popular as a Proxmox hypervisor
  • Quite cheap and have very low idle power
  • Part of lineup known as TinyMiniMicro, see ServeTheHome review

Problems Summary

  • Intel I219 network card prone to crashes under sustained load in Debian, see Proxmox Forums
  • BIOS boot menu empty - perform a BIOS update

Pricing

  • Expect to pay around 120€ to 150€ for a 35W model with an Intel Core i5 8500T, 8GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and 65W power supply as of August 2024

References

  1. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06047054#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20B360,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore
  2. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06057132#:~:text=Chipset-,Intel%20Q370,-NOTE%3A%20Multicore
  3. 3.0 3.1 "HP ProDesk 400 G4 Desktop Mini Business PC Specifications". HP.
  4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srwc_PFbXXs
  5. https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06045012#:~:text=AMD%20Radeon%20RX560%204%20GB%20GDDR5
  6. https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/vve1l7/hp_elitedesk_800_g4_mini_hdd_error/
  7. https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c06042607